See you on the other side

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    1 year ago

    This absolutely feels like republicans setting themselves up for the “red wave” in 2020 that never materialized.

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        I just got notification from bacon reader that I can’t use it anymore after almost 10 years. It was how I used reddit. I reckon a lot of folks will be getting that same announcement tomorrow, loads of iphone users especially. So I just deleted my account today. Reckon other people will do the same

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        1 year ago

        While I want to agree with this, there have been a number of people saying they will stop using Reddit when the changes come into force on July 1.

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          Yeah people say stuff like that all the time. If they were really going to leave they’d have done it already

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            I heard that less than 10% of redditors use 3rd party apps. After tomorrow, I doubt that the whole 10% moves here. Maybe 5% if we are lucky (on unlucky if you are an instance owner).

            What really matters is how well the mods can manage the site without their 3rd party tools. Without them, moderation will suffer.

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              5% of Reddit is colossal compared to Lemmy’s current numbers. I think even 0.1% would be very noticeable.

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                1 year ago

                I might be in the minority, but I actually like Lemmy where it is now. Sorting by new, there’s usually more new stuff than I can read anyway as-is.

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              1 year ago

              The content on r/all was already dropping in quality during june. I was noticing I was getting into weird niche subreddit way earlier than usual, so hopefully that means all the post makers are starting to jump ship

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                I was getting into weird niche subreddit way earlier than usual

                Same for me. I was getting a lot of ‘suggested’ communities in my feed

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        1 year ago

        There will probably be another wave. Simply for the fact that moderation bots are going to stop functioning tomorrow and Spam is just going to go through the roof. It all depends on how fast Reddit can get a handle on that situation.

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          Oh yeah, I’d forgotten about the moderation tools losing API access. The big subreddits don’t have the staff to manually fight all of that, especially with at least some of the senior/dedicated mods losing at least some interest in keeping things afloat. Pro bono work was already rough enough with tools to help. Remove those tools and it’s going to put a lot of people off moderating in a serious manner.

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            1 year ago

            Unpaid staff at that

            At what point do they just decide fuck it and stop trying to fight against all the spam and irrelevant posts because they simply just don’t have the means to anymore

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      Yeah I don’t think there will be a significant drop in reddit users however I think they’ll be a noticeable drop in quality posts and comments. I think with many older gen redditors and experienced mods jumping ship there’s going to be somewhat of a void left in the wake.

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        Content already has been dropping in quality slowly. A few days ago people were talking about subs up voting Facebook level memes to the frontpage.

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          That was very much how the death of Digg felt. As the real users left, they’re upvoting and downvoting pressure that kept total trash off the front page waned. Soon it was nothing but total garbage posts and advertisers who were gaming the system. The content quality completely crashed and it just pushed more real users away.

          It’ll be interesting to watch how well Reddit weathers this and what comes out the other side. Digg still exists, but it’s a shadow of a shadow of its former self.

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      Most 3rd party Reddit apps will be gone, and Reddit have shown willingness to move to a far more closed model than it used to be. Mods were and are not the only ones to leave.

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        1 year ago

        Yeah people like you and me care about that, but let’s face it, if the average user cared about how shitty social media sites treat them then FB and Twitter would be deserts

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          Twitter has also seen a mass exodus in the last few months in favor of a more open platform. And there’s a real difference about Facebook in that on Facebook, you connect with people you know, so it’s important to be on the same platform as them. It’s harder for someone to leave the platform unless most of their friends move as well. Unsurprisingly, Messenger and Instagram are also really efficient in that regard.

          This is not so true on Reddit, where people interacting usually don’t know one another. What matters is the community, and communities can be smaller.

          Well, that’s how I use those platforms anyway, so obviously take this with a grain of salt.

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          FB is a desert compared with the old days, and Twitter will get there as well. Maybe the “AI revolution” can replace all the organic human content with fake people, but that’s about their only chance long term. If you can even call such a thing a “win”.

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            I hope that is the case with FB but according to my American friends it’s still the social media site of choice for racist uncles everywhere

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          Do you remember Orkut? Digg? Slashdot?

          Revisit Reddit one, two, three years from now. I think you might be surprised.

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      My take is slightly different. Apart from content you would find of Twitter/Instagram/Facebook/Tiktok, what makes reddit powerful is human experts, especially in STEM and tech. I see many of these people leaving and reddit becoming a meme + yt comments platform.

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    1 year ago

    You know you fucked up, when even google gets worse for a few days, because of the subs you made go dark.

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    I’ve seen people that use third party apps and had no idea about them going away. Let’s see if it effects Reddit in any meaningful way.

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        The early adopters matter far more than the raw numbers suggest. There is no long tail for content creation and curation. Ongoing exsanguination will intensify. Prognosis is poor for this patient.

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    I am 99% lurker and I joined a few weeks ago. I’ve been patiently waiting to see what happens with the amount and type of content after an assumed bump in activity when 3rd party apps go dark.

    I was an Alien Blue user for years before Reddit purchased it, then I was using Sync (and will be again soon with Sync for Lemmy). Reddit is essentially dead to me without 3rd party apps.

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      I was also lurking without an account as I was waiting to see if reddit would get cold feet about pulling the plug (not that I had any real hope).

      For me it’s the principle of the thing. I don’t want to support a business that conducts itself that way.

    • Swarfega@lemm.ee
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      Same here. I’ve jumped between various apps but ended the last year on Sync after their major UI overhaul. I don’t plan on going back to Reddit due to the API issues. Looking forward to Sync for Lemmy!

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    I’m off Reddit fully but I don’t think it’ll be an implosion. With a few other apps striking deals, some will switch to those while others will stick with the main. I think mostly OGs and people more comfortable with tech are the ones who made the switch.

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      I agree. Lemmy takes a bit to get used to. I think if content starts to get worse on Reddit, more people will get bored and switch. Hopefully by then those early kinks in lemmy will have been cleared out.

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        We first need to generate some content so new users will find information and enjoyment on Lemmy, otherwise there is no use for the platform, information got me on reddit in the first place, now information will keep me on Lemmy, I will try to generate some too.

    • Jamie@jamie.moe
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      Deleted my account today and uninstalled RIF. They’ll be getting nothing from me.

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        Strange feeling seeing the rif app missing from my home screen, it has been there for over a decade…

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          Ditto. I haven’t deleted it yet, but it’s been off the menu for a month and some now. Maybe I can put a custom icon on Jerboa to soften the transition?

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      Maybe they think the money they can make from companies using their APIs to train AI is worth tanking user satisfaction with their platform

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    the real test is will Lemmy attain sustainable growth after this fiasco? or it is just temporary?

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      I think the hard-core redditers - those who aren’t just using reddit to find the best burger when they visit Houston - will stay here, or have more of a presence.

      At least that is my hope - “If you want Lemmy to be Reddit, just go back to Reddit.” As it were.

      Casual redditers don’t even know there are non-offical mobile apps.