• Hypx@kbin.social
    51·
    10 months ago

    People need to start accepting the necessity of geoengineering. Net zero by 2050 is a pure fantasy.

    • PostmodernPythia@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      Do you know how easy geoengineering is to fuck up? And how global and severe the consequences are if we do? Plus, geoengineering is the kind of thing one country, or a billionaire moron on a private island, could do, and kill us all. I’m not saying there’s no place for geoengineering, only that the only reasonable place for it is after pretty much everything else has failed. We really don’t need or want The Year Without A Summer on repeat for decades.

      • Hypx@kbin.social
        1·
        10 months ago

        And what are the consequences of failing to deal with climate change? At some point, the option becomes unavoidable.

        • PostmodernPythia@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          Yes, if everything else fails. But continuing our current rate of consumption and assuming geoengineering will save us (which, let’s be real, is the intention of most geoengineering supporters) is insane. I don’t oppose developing the tech. I oppose using it until we’ve tried everything else.

          • Hypx@kbin.social
            1·
            10 months ago

            Then you are simply not aware of the situation. We have “tried everything else.” It has basically failed already. There is no chance we can stop emissions in the timeframe desired. Geoengineering is already the only possibility.

            • PostmodernPythia@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              10 months ago

              We haven’t tried shit. We’ve continued to operate as if there are no limits to the biosphere. I’m very aware of the situation, which is the only reason I don’t reject geoengineering out of hand. Mao thought ecoengineering by killing all the sparrows would increase crop yields. It did not end well. I simply don’t want that on a global scale.

              • Hypx@kbin.social
                1·
                10 months ago

                You’re missing the part about time. There is nothing that can be done in time to stop the problem. We’ve already tried everything that could actually work in a short amount of time. Geoengineering is the only thing left.

                The rest of your argument is a strawman argument. There’s nothing to defend there.

  • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish
    69·
    10 months ago

    Net zero is a lie that is impossible to achieve with the stated methods, in the timescale necessary to avert disaster.

    https://medium.com/@samyoureyes/the-busy-workers-handbook-to-the-apocalypse-7790666afde7

    We’re hitting 2-3c above the 20th average by 2050 —agriculture will collapse and billions will stave, hyperinflation, resource wars, wet-bulb heatwaves that kill millions — all are highly probable. Plan accordingly, don’t have kids, etc.