• EdibleFriend@lemmy.world
    882·
    11 months ago

    What does it say about a person like me who reads all these damn memes even though I don’t know jack shit about programming?

    • insomniac_lemon@kbin.social
      24·
      11 months ago

      I’m like that because:

      • I need a hobby
      • weird history with programming, but never actually liked any programming language enough to have a real project.
      • now I found a niche language* that I like but so far it’s just not where I want get started (one example, still no bindings for Godot 4)
      • Ray almost tricked me into making a framework for a framework but I saw right through that
      • personal issues

      *=Nim

        • insomniac_lemon@kbin.social
          31·
          11 months ago

          Right off the bat no Godot 4 bindings at least that I’m seeing in search, so that problem persists.

          I’m not quite sure on style but I want a jack-of-all-trades language (speed, ease, capability, options, platform options etc) and that’s a high bar. Nim seems like an outlier from everything I can see.

          Actually no, some of the Haskell syntax stuff I’m seeing it making me mad.

          • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
            3·
            11 months ago

            Alternatively, it’s a dirty language, but PHP is supremely usable.

            The truth about programming is that the language isn’t really that important, they can all be translated back and forth and the choice of what to use is usually made for you.

            • insomniac_lemon@kbin.social
              2·
              11 months ago

              The truth about programming is that the language isn’t really that important

              I have had the thought that many languages have bindings for Raylib, so that lowers the bar a lot.

              Beyond that, I can see a lot of problems. I already could use Raylib and a few other types of frameworks/libraries (UI, webui, TUI, fantasy console, scripting, microcontroller stuff) potentially, so any other language has to allow more/better options than that. Particularly as I don’t really have ideas for those (with few-or-no tools) right now to start there.

              Alternatively, it’s a dirty language, but PHP is supremely usable.

              For your consideration, a moment of Master Shake to represent me (alternate 1, alternate 2)

      • Jears@social.jears.at
        3·
        11 months ago

        Never worked with nim or godot, but it is able to call c routines? So I guess you would be able to call to gdnative?

        Likely isn’t gonna be beatifull, but it should work.

        • insomniac_lemon@kbin.social
          2·
          11 months ago

          It’s something like that, but way beyond me so I couldn’t get something manually let-alone full bindings. I was making a polygon loader+text format for Raylib and didn’t even finish that somewhat due to it not being straightforward to properly implement/use (beyond what I had already that is, and that I’d probably need to make an editor too). And a big reason for wanting Godot is to create and animate polygons in-engine eye example with an editor so yeah I’d rather wait.

    • theneverfox@pawb.socialEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      It says you should write some damn code.

      Anyone can program, granted they aren’t intimidated by the concept… It’s actually very easy, and most professionals are pretty bad at it.

      I, and probably lots of others, would be happy to recommend a starting point based on your interests. If nothing else, it will make you smarter

    • leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl
      1·
      11 months ago

      maybe, on off-chance, you fall under the term script monkey?

      it’s like someone who understands well enough to run things but not grok through.

      just remembered stumbling on it while reading some sci-fi.

      • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
        4·
        11 months ago

        At least with labview there’s all sorts of NI proprietary shit which makes instrumenting labview equipment slightly less torturous. Matlab is literally just expensive Python inside the world’s worst GUI and one indexing so it’s annoying to port algorithms out of it

    • latesleeper@lemmy.world
      1·
      10 months ago

      It’s the only programming language I really delved into. I haven’t had to program since college. I found it very useful.

    • theherk@lemmy.world
      26·
      11 months ago

      It’s worth going hungry in the dark. Lawyer up and hit the gym. JS doesn’t deserve you.

        • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          3·
          11 months ago

          Yes. However, The same cannot be said for every other dev on the project.

          Typescript helps a lot but JS still lacks a lot of the functionality, and especially the tooling, available in other frameworks.

          Going from ASP.Net Core to NestJS is like digging holes with a shovel instead of a backhoe. It feels like a huge downgrade. And then half your time is spent dealing with the incredibly finicky dev environment.

          I am not impressed.

          • naught@sh.itjust.works
            1·
            10 months ago

            Interesting! I have built several projects entirely in TS or with react/next frontends and I enjoy the DX a lot now that I have the experience with the overwhelming breadth of options out there. It was very frustrating and overwhelming for me at first though. I found Dockerizing to help with consistency and finickiness.

            Just curious, what are you missing most from asp.net core?

      • fer0n@lemmy.world
        5·
        11 months ago

        I don’t know all of them, but I was talking about React being a framework, not a language.

        • SwampYankee@mander.xyz
          44·
          11 months ago

          Hah, I kinda glossed over that one. Not sure what the downvote is about, it’s a joke. JS and PHP are the two I’m most familiar with and they’re scripting languages, not “proper” programming languages. That doesn’t make them any less serious. Anyway, React, being a library for a scripting language, is two steps removed.

          • Doc Avid Mornington@midwest.socialEnglish
            2·
            10 months ago

            A scripting language is certainly a programming language. In fact, it can be hard to even draw a line at all. PHP is just-in-time compiled, and has static analysis tools that can catch errors that are normally considered “compile-time” - scripting language or no? Is Typescript compiled? Are JVM bytecode and WASM just very low level scripting languages? Can you write a powerful web application using BASH? What even is Lisp, in this context? “Scripting language” is a poor abstraction, really.

          • Agility0971@lemmy.world
            2·
            11 months ago

            matlab is considered a programming language but that piece of shit acts more like a scripting language than php

    • ChewTiger@lemmy.world
      3·
      10 months ago

      I really enjoyed using MATLAB in school and it really helped with some of my graduate stuff. What scummy stuff are they up to? Any alternatives you’d recommend?

    • pingveno@lemmy.mlEnglish
      5·
      11 months ago

      Can I be a 1.99x nerd if I missed the bird one? (Swift, from a quick search)

    • soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz
      11·
      11 months ago

      Am I delusional or am I really that nerdy? Who doesn’t recognise at least one of these?

      I feel like they’re all super common language/frameworks