cross-posted from: https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/post/726542

I have ~100 users downloaded ~1000 of my files in the last week alone. Music piracy is still alive and kicking. I encourage everyone to download and install SoulseekQT/Nicotine+/Seeker-Android and share whatever kind of music you have for everybody to download. Let’s bring back music piracy!

      • Reborn Ash@lemdit.comEnglish
        6·
        1 year ago

        Bruh. I’ve been listening to that stuff for way too long, idk what good quality is anymore.

        But, what about disk space?

        • RunAwayFrog@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          4·
          1 year ago

          YouTube has audio in Opus format@~150kbit/s. Opus is a much better format than MP3. Almost all audio is completely transparent at that bitrate, where with MP3s, there are cases where audio is not transparent without using non standard >320kbit/s bitrates (a lot of content is transparent @320kbits/s though).

          Now, sites/tools like the one you mentioned take the Opus (or AAC) file/stream from YouTube, and lossily re-encodes it again, probably to a file that is larger than the original, with at best the same quality, but probably worse quality. You obviously can’t get better output than the input in lossy compression.

          So, the disk space argument is weird if you can play Opus/AAC (should be playable on every device nowadays).

          This is the valid part for why you shouldn’t use YT-to-MP3 converters.

          But there are also invalid reasons why people will tell you it’s shit:

          • They think all MP3s sound like the shit ones from a decade (or two, or three) ago, using low bitrates and/or created with shit encoders. In reality, not all MP3s sound like shit, but vigilance is needed at every encoding step, as is the case with all lossy conversions.
          • They are conflating the quality of the conversion, with the quality of the source, and think the bad quality of some user-uploaded YouTube content is due to the lossy conversion done by YouTube, and/or the MP3 converter re-encoding from YouTube. Content uploaded by the copyright holders (assuming basic competence) does not have that problem at all.
            • RunAwayFrog@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              Soulseek is an old-style P2P network. It has nothing to do with my parent comment. I personally don’t use it (see my other comments in this thread).

              If you want to grab a non-reencoded file from YouTube, you can use a tool like yt-dlp

              # see what formats are available for a YT vid
yt-dlp -F <youtube-url>
# format 251 is usually available as the highest quality Opus format
yt-dlp -f 251 <youtube-url>

              That last command should grab you an Opus stream in WEBM format.

              If you’re not a CLI guy, others should be able to give you a good GUI recommendation.

    • Ilikeprivacy@lemmy.caEnglish
      6·
      1 year ago

      I mostly listen to jazz, blues and classical. I use rutracker which has everything I want and in lossless formats. Mp3s too but I’m more interested in lossless.

    • croobat@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      yt-dlp is the way my friend, I got a command to download a specific playlist of mine every once in a while:

      alias youtube-dl-playlist-guardar="yt-dlp -x -f bestaudio --external-downloader aria2c --external-downloader-args '-c -j 3 -x 3 -s 3 -k 1M' --ignore-errors --continue --audio-format mp3 'https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=_______'"

        • croobat@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          You are very welcome! I use it with aria2, it’s opcional but recommended, in case you don’t want it you can strip the --external-downloader and -args part :)

          • Reborn Ash@lemdit.comEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            Interesting. so, let me get this: how are you combining the yt-dl downloader with aria2? Like, you use yt-dl for getting the opus/ripping the vid, and feeding that to aria2 to actually download?