Amazon CEO tells staff to work in office three days a week or look for another job::Almost 30,000 workers signed petition against return-to-office mandate in May
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I cannot upvote this one enough.
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I don’t know but there is a commercial property bubble right now. I’ve heard speculation that said investors want their commercial property loans to not default. They need commercial property to be worth more.
I’ve also heard that these megacorps get huge tax breaks by promising to bring an amount of foot traffic to the area which is supposed to bolster local businesses.
Not sure if true, but if it is, I wouldn’t bat an eye.
I’ve heard similar guesses that executives or whoever… invest in businesses that benefit from their employees foot traffic. Not sure either.
This plus management needs to justify its existence. Workers have proven they can be productive without micromanagement, which means management is a waste of money. Every worker knows that, but they’re afraid of shareholders deciding they want companies to automate management instead of laying off workers to increase profit. And if that happens, it’s just a few small leaps to cutting the biggest waste of money of all, CEOs.
Lol I don’t know about all that.
There’s a bit of truth to that. Honestly, leadership via email/chat is hard. Bad managers can’t micromanage and pretend to know what’s going on, so they get screwed. Good managers (which I promise do exist) have a hard time really getting their team to excel and know what the real problems are that they can address and fix. So, every team ends up in a range of mediocrity either rising from not having to deal with useless managers or not able to reach their full potential with good managers.
Is that bad? Eh, probably not.
Bad managers are a waste of resources just like bad front line employees are a waste of resources. Any role that has less oversight has more potential for abuse that is harder for the company to recognize. It’s probably easier to notice an underperforming employee in person than it is virtually.
The longer term effect on growth of talent and teams is probably still largely unknown.
I work a hybrid schedule. I am definitely much more productive at home where I’m comfortable than I am at the office where my chair is shitty and the AC is too cold and there’s a lot of annoying and distracting noise and chatter than I can only (not totally) escape with noise cancelling headphones and loud music.
Control.
or look for another job
A threat.
Therefore hostile termination.
Therefore severance.
Amazon CEO is a dumbass and literally just lost this fight.
I doubt it’s not carefully worded in corporate speak. It’s much more likely just The Guardian’s sensationalism. Amazon have an army of HR people; they wouldn’t make such basic mistakes.
Mandatory arbitration says that there is no fight. Laws simply don’t apply to companies anymore when you can’t try your case in a real courtroom.
Yeah, if I worked for Amazon, I’d say, “no. Now fire me, assholes. Go ahead.”
What exactly is the threat?
If I read the article correctly, the CEO’s statement is effectively saying that employees who refuse to work according to the companies policy, may be fired.
While I agree that it is bad policy, I don’t see how this is unlawful policy, nor do I see how enforcing the policy is a threat.
As far as I saw the other places had different wording, “it is not going to work out” or something like this instead of look for another job
Where I live the wording doesn’t matter, what matters if you signed an employment contract that states your job is remote, or even a lack of a mention of an office location where you are expected to perform work with an assumption (like the job posting specifying) that the job is remote then it’s enough for the job to be considered a remote job. If the employer then tries to alter that without trying to give you some form of compensation, it’s considered a constructive dismissal and you’d be eligible for employment insurance.
Man, can you imagine what it must be like to be a recruiter for Amazon?
I def can. No one is hiring this is a layoff. If you’re a recruiter and still there you’re keeping your mouth shut, pretending to work in something and showing up threevdays a week
How so?
This measure is probably aimed towards their AWS staff or related personnel. Recruiters for those types of spots are going to have a hard time finding good/qualified people for those kinds of jobs. So what should be a normally slam dunk job (Amazon Tech Recruiter) is likely going to be much harder. Plus… you know those recruiters now have to show up to the office 3x a week so there’s that too.
That makes more sense. I didn’t understand the person I was replying to. Whether they meant it would be easier or harder.
It’s employee hostile so their job is almost impossible.
Every employee should hold the line - if they fire you all they’re fucked.
Go fuck yourself, Andy Jassy. I hope your name becomes as reviled as the scumbag you succeeded.
Textbook example of “the rules are for thee, not for me”.
I personally know 3 different people who worked at the Amazon corporate headquarters in office jobs. All three came out mentally and emotionally broken and defeated after just a few years. Some office employees get signing bonuses deferred and payed out only if they survive some number of years. They internally refer to it as getting their ‘golden handcuffs’ unshackled. One of the three people made it to then and quit…the other two quit after the first year. Amazon is a grinder of human meat, and it looks like they’re getting back into the business of grinding with this new policy.
Everyone remembers the peeing in bottles part of Amazon’s model but the way they turn through office staff is less talked about. Amazon’s business model is based on crushing their employees no matter their department, job type, or level.
Man, we really need better labor laws.
I worked at an Amazon warehouse for about 2 years, I think the only reason they couldnt chew me up is cause I took to telling people to go fuck themselves for basically everything. “Can you go to sortation” Fuck off no, we only have 3 people using pallet jacks right now, maybe if you didnt reorganize sortation into an inefficient mess so managers could pretend to do something this wouldnt be a problem.
At least this CEO is not as prehistoric as Zoom one lol.
Anyways, if i worked for Amazon I would be looking for another job ASAP, i value my time a lot.
I love how covid is growing and we are still with this back to the office bullshit.
All of FAANG and most big companies are forcing this hoping people won’t have anywhere to go.
Basically a free gift to smaller competitors. If you’ve got desirable skills then you can be selective. Smaller companies offering remote work are more desirable, and saving on rent, utilities etc. means you have more to offer in terms of wages and benefits.
Sort of?
The big tech companies often pay workers well outside the bands of other firms, particularly when you factor in the equity portion of compensation.
We’re interviewing a Googler right now and they’re going to knowingly take a pay cut to join a company that’s fully remote.
Likely this persons’ move isn’t only about it being remote but also that they’d have more agency in a smaller org.
This is it. People move from FAANG to smaller orgs to have more agency, step up a role etc… But then we take a severe paycut because often those companies don’t have stonks and stuff.
They’re banking on people living in big cities needing those salaries, and it’s likely going to work.
Online companies: you can do everything on the internet!
Also, online companies: except working.
I was forced back in June 2020. It’d kill for 2 days home a week 😭
You’d kill for it, yes, but would you update your resume for it? When was the last time you sent out your resume?
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Who have you killed so far?
Sounds great. This mens they can stay home to look for a new job?
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Amazon’s CEO has told workers “it’s probably not going to work out” for them at the tech company unless they are prepared to come into the office at least three days a week.
Through an announcement on the company’s blog, Jessy said the leadership team had decided that it was better for Amazon’s culture and easier to learn from each other and collaborate more effectively when they are in office together.
The petition read: “Amazon’s top-down, one-size-fits-all RTO [return to office] mandate undermines the diverse, accessible future that we want to be a part of.”
The walkout was a protest against the company’s slow progress on climate goals and the return to office mandate.
This month, some Amazon workers in the US reported being tracked and penalised for not spending sufficient time in the company’s offices, an email sent to employees revealed.
The emails received by employees noted that staff members were “not currently meeting our expectation of joining your colleagues in the office at least three days a week”, according to the Financial Times.
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Right in the midst of a COVID surge. Brilliant CEO they have there.
