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  • I can attest that when it comes to complete migration, bridging is not a solution or at least not a good one. The only way is full adoption.

    In my experience, bridging chats moves only a minute fraction of the userbase in the end. The network pull that a userbase migration would make w/o a bridge is highly reduced w/ a bridge and leads to inconvenience for all.

    Considering 95% of communication has been text based in my experience, those who were convinced to move to, say, Matrix, moved to matrix but were still able to talk with users who weren’t that convinced to move and stayed on Discord. This formed the middle ground to satisfy both sides but this barely did anything in terms of creating a secure line of communication and virtually stopped the transition and also reversed it because of the few inconveniences caused, primarily the inability to join VC sessions across and making DMs across. And of course as you said, sharing links is too much hassle compared to just a click. (Although this is not the case w/ Matrix as its main clients have in-house VC functionality.)

    And yes, I agree that it is certainly difficult to move users as some platforms become too tied up with our lives that if you try to leave any of these sites anyway, you get the risk of isolation. I managed to balance it out to an extent so I have not faced such a situation but I certainly got more time to focus on work and other stuff.

    At the end of the day it’s still a long road till a more libre internet will be mainstream. At least by making small contributions we can still keep the idea alive.


  • I can understand that «super expensive» will have a different meaning for different regions but for me it is the case.

    I am using the Thunder Client on Android with some optimizations. But its resource usage is not comparable to Discord at all.

    Regardless, Libre platforms like Lemmy and Matrix allow me to use different clients if one is too heavy for me. This is not the case with Discord.



  • This is not at all stretching it. Discord’s client is very poorly optimized and bloated and it is known since a long time. I could never run it on my hardware with a comfortable experience. Even some of my friends would ask me to look for and provide them older versions of the app because each update would make it laggier for them to use. I don’t live in a First or Second world country with a good paying job. Most electronics are imported here and cost a lot.






  • Discord should be avoided as a communications platform. I don’t see a single point that makes me want to use it.

    It has no customization or designing flexibility, you are forced to stick to one design unless you pay for a stupeid & an expensive subscription. Otherwise you need to use potentially unsafe third party tools for it and even those go against Discord’s ToS.

    It is a non-private, non-secure and overtly commercialized product that should be put in the bin. But thanks to the virtual monopoly in creating a social platform (also thanks to the tech-illiterate influencers for promoting it) for more than just “Chatting for gamers”, as it was originally intended for. Discord in its current state is nothing more than just a commercial market where you are the commodity. Its not a social platform.

    I don’t want to give out my data and message history for some company to sell to be able to discuss about your project on GitHub, or even be able to communicate with you.

    The client is garbage as well unless you own a super expensive rig.

    I abandoned Discord completely more than half an year ago with the vow of never registering again. I completely shifted my comms to Matrix & Signal. I have not been more at peace since.

    If you manage a public project you wish for people to interact with. I request you to at least keep a mirror/bridge on XMPP, Matrix or even Revolt. Please choose something open source, private and secure for the sake of other people.