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Isn’t it enough to have a single offsite backup?
Isn’t it enough to have a single offsite backup?
Please demonstrate how the example I gave above can be done with common scripting tools, such it would mimic the declarative experience I described. I don’t think it is possible as you claim.
Can you please point to where I deflected any questions? I looked and could not find any instances of such.
I actually answered the question “why”, please refer to previous comments. It is also answered in the main post. But I will rephrase and summarize again here:
Distroless is not core to the idea. It’s only a nice to have. The main point is the composability, Declarative design, etc.
the base image is nodejs
Which has its own dockerfile. My proposed tool would allow using other images as base too, but that is not the problem it is solving.
copy your app
Well you’d have to have it compiled or built if that is required in your case. With my system, the build recipe would be a gentoo ebuild (shell-script-like) that you would just reference.
The example I gave is pretty simple, you’re right. Say in another case, you list the following packages:
nodejs, nginx, vpn-app(wireguard), some-system-monitoring-app, my-app
You could start with a nodejs base or an nginx base, and then write the steps to install the other. You’d also have to make sure to get all the deps if they have them.
You’re unlikely to find a ready image that has all what you want. But with my method, you can compose different ones however you like, rather than having to find an image that matches your exact use case.
I had a feeling nixos would have something, but I avoided it because it seemed more than a day’s worth of learning (and also its a bit opinionated). But I will revisit it one day!
Did not know about apko. I am not attached to distroless, just thought it was a nice to have. So apko might be a reason I don’t pursue this project anymore. Thanks for showing me!
Your comment is very insightful for other reasons too. Thanks a lot :)
The package manager would not be part of the container image. The package manager is only used to build it. The container image will only include the packages the user specifies.
combining portions of images as multi-stage builds
That’s something I am making use of for this, actually :)
What you’re describing not only already exists…
Can you please give an example of a tool that can build a container image by being given only a list of packages it needs to have?
My tool would be as simple as doing something like this:
build-container --packages nodejs-20.1.1, yarn-4.2.2, some-app-i-made-1.0.0
And I would have a container that only has nodejs binary, yarn, and my own app. no package manager or any utils.
Whats the risk? My uptime is pretty good and I host from home.
Why not host at home?
But it’s not self hostable.
Not self hostable and not secure by default.
Do you know where I can find them? I will seed them all
Piracy is cool, but I prefer to use community-driven software rather than ones driven by corporate profits. I prefer a model where many can contribute to it, fork it, and for which making integrations is much easier thanks to its openness.
I tried it about a year ago. I don’t remember why I left it, but I think I did have a couple issues with it related to nvidia. I’ll try it again.
Gitea claims to be working on federation too, which puzzles me that forgejo presents it as a differentiator.
Pulling in mainline gitea changes, I did see. But I didn’t see any notable differences from gitea. Do you know of any?
Not very clear to me that this is any more valuable than OG NixOS.
This sounds a lot like the forgejo vs gitea fork. I love the forgejo people but I am yet to see a sufficient differentiator.
I like fuzzle as a rofi alternative for wayland. It’s made by the same developer as Foot terminal.
It’s as much or as little as you want to. If you don’t want to change anything, you can use something like debian and only maintain once every 5 years (and you could even skip that).
I personally spend a little more, by choice, because I use gentoo. But if I’m busy, I can avoid maintenance by only running routine updates every couple of weeks or so.
That’s just a bandaid on capitalism’s issues. Urging people not to support the biggest actor will never work in the grand scheme of things, when said actor provides their best immediate interests.