• hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I mean…

    Writing off an entire gender because of the actions of some is absolutely insane. Men represent 50 percent of the population. In any other context that would be considered bigoted without a second thought.

    Likewise, the idea that it’s the same men is straight up fiction. A teenager today was born in the 2000s. They have literally nothing to do with historical sexism.

    Finally the “I had to suffer so it’s your turn” is beyond shitty. All that mentality is going to do is breed resentment. I’m pretty sure it already is, and alt righters are leveraging this shit to radicalize a small but increasing amount of young men.

    I had issues growing up. Some of that was related to women, but a lot of that was related to social isolation in general. When I say I’d probably kill myself in growing up as a boy in today’s world, I’m not joking.

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      1 year ago

      ‘no sympathy from me this time, get it from other men’ does not equal ‘writing off an entire gender’.

      I get that you guys think you should have instant sympathy from me for some reason because some of you are feeling slightly suicidal. Let me illustrate for you in living color why this woman is having trouble having sympathy:

      • when I was a teen, I attempted suicide twice
      • because I was dealing with a pedophile father
      • after moving out and getting on my feet, I was sexually assaulted by the CEO of the startup I worked, had to leave and start over again

      This illustrates a scientific truth that we have less sympathy for people facing things that we’ve overcome ourselves, especially if we feel we’ve overcome a ‘harder’ version. Imagine how hard I laugh (or how much I want to smash something) when a guy says “women have it too easy now”.

      young men don’t need to be told that ‘women are writing them off’ because we aren’t rushing to comfort them (at cost to ourselves). They need to fucking adapt without women’s help, and they need to understand that women not having time to help them or be sympathetic to them anymore is a side-effect of women being fucked by the system too, not because of women ‘having too much freedom’.

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        1 year ago

        At no point did anyone in this thread ask for you to comfort men.

        I made a comment saying young men had it hard. You took it upon yourself to dismiss their struggle. Then you took it upon yourself to say their struggle doesn’t matter because women have it worse and anyone who brings it up is a sexist. then you took it upon yourself to blame young men today for sexism in society that existed before you were born.

        I’m asking for basic empathy towards your fellow human being. I’m wasn’t even asking for you specially to have empathy, just society in general.

        I am truly sorry for what you experience. However, misfortune isn’t a competition. Just because women have it worse doesn’t mean it’s okay for men to have their own problems.

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          This whole comment thread is taking place in the context of a guy who is responding to a meme about creepy pua teachings (you know, the thing that causes all the abuse I suffered) with ‘whaa men have it so hard’, an I’m being called unempathetic and accused of whataboutism. Thick irony fellas.

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              1 year ago

              Look I dont mean to blow your mind but misogyny ain’t new and these pua fucks have been saying the same things in different spaces for all of human history. My dads generation was ‘locker room talk’

              So deal with the reality that pua beliefs are as harmful as I say they are, or deny it - I dont give a fuck anymore.

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                1 year ago

                Look I’ve been in a lot of locker rooms.

                First, most of the talk is some vaguely homoerotic stuff about other men’s bodies and what their workout routine is.

                Even when it is more misogynistic, it in no way, shape or form involves casually taking about pedophilia or molesting your relatives.