This community is housed on an instance run by two trans women, focused on the needs of the queer and gender diverse community.

We allowed 196 here because we were promised the community is queer and trans inclusive.

If you’re here it’s because you’re aggressively supportive of trans folk. Not middle of the ground, not “just asking questions”.

If your response to that is, “yes, but…” then this isn’t the instance for you, and by extension, this isn’t the community for you.

tl;dr - Unambiguous support and inclusion, or fuck off somewhere else.

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Edit - I changed the phrase "aggressive support to “unambiguous support”, as there was some confusion over the intent behind my previous phrasing.

    • detectivesniffles@lemmy.caEnglish
      33·
      1 year ago

      WHATS THAT SORRY I CANT HEAR YOU IM CRANKING THE HOG RIGHT NOW TRANSPHOBES GTFO (DISRESPECTFULLY) 🏳️‍⚧️

      • Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social
        28·
        1 year ago

        but it’s weird so its gonna happen

        But it shouldn’t happen.

        “This is how things are” is a terrible excuse for why we should allow them to be that way.

        Hopefully you’re just being sarcastic tho

      • Risus_Nex@lemmy.worldEnglish
        23·
        1 year ago

        Yes, it IS not the norm. It’s a minority. But that doesn’t make it weird. Just because it’s kind of rare doesn’t make it a bad thing. It’s been and still is the society that is making it weird for the people themselves. But I see a positive development to a more open minded and inclusive society, even tho the “angry people” who are against this are loud, they won’t be able to stop it! And they know it, that’s why they are so angry at everyone who’s different as them.

        • lazynooblet@lazysoci.alEnglish
          11·
          1 year ago

          It’s good to be weird. Weird means not normal, not mainstream. I find not weird to be boring. So bring on the weird!

          • Jimbo@yiffit.netEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            So with you on this, as a weird person I would not change anything even tho it sometimes presents challenges. Found a weird bf too and I’m in heaven

          • agent_flounder@lemmy.oneEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            Right on. It’s good to be in the minority, to be different!! It would be boring and if everyone were the same.

            I have ADHD so there are always more people not like me than like me (unless I’m in a ADHD club or something lol). I could say I’m weird. But also I’m a different kind of normal. Who decides what is or isn’t normal anyway right?

            Anyway… The problem isn’t being unlike some majority group. The problem is the fear and hatred and ignorance.

            When it comes down to it we are all human.

  • UnculturedSwine@lemmy.worldEnglish
    147·
    1 year ago

    This is what the fediverse was created for. Casual transphobia doesn’t need to be permitted and I fully support that.

    • Lemdee@lemmy.worldEnglish
      26·
      1 year ago

      Can you see my reply? I’m on lemmy.world and I thought it was still defederated from Beehaw so I shouldn’t be able to see your comment O_o (I’m used to being more active on my beehaw account so using my lemmy.world account threw me off, disregard this lol)

      P.S. Yay trans rights and having a pro-trans meme space 😄

      • mozingo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        32·
        1 year ago

        Being defederated just means you can’t see new posts on beehaw communities and they can’t see your communities at all. If your instance and beehaw are both federated with a third instance, like the one this community is on, then you’ll still be able to see comments by beehaw users on that instance.

        • Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social
          22·
          1 year ago

          Let me just make sure I got this right

          Dee is on lemmy.world

          Zoop is on beehaw

          This thread is on lemmy.blahaj.zone

          So Dee and Zoop can see each other’s comments since neither lemmy.world nor beehaw is defederated from blahaj.zone?

          It’s like a border state or something

          • Lemdee@lemmy.world
            8·
            1 year ago

            I can see Zoop’s comment, but Zoop can’t see mine. Because beehaw is defederated from lemmy.world but lemmy.world has not chosen to defederate from beehaw so it still gets the comments from beehaw users.

            Actually because all these replies are to my lemmy.world account Zoop can’t see this entire exchange, and I can’t see it on my beehaw account either. I just had a brain fart.

            • Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social
              6·
              1 year ago

              Ah, okay. Because behaw defederated they’re not seeing anything from lemmy.world. They’re also not sending anything to lemmy.world. But they are sending stuff to blahaj.zone, so you can read that stuff.

              I wonder if they’re seeing my responses, from kbin, to your comments, from lemmy.world, on blahaj.zone.

              • Lemdee@lemmy.world
                3·
                1 year ago

                I wonder if they’re seeing my responses, from kbin, to your comments, from lemmy.world, on blahaj.zone.

                I cannot see anything from this conversation on my beehaw account, because it all stemmed from my original reply (which is from a lemmy.world account). So on beehaw it’s just Zoop’s original comment, nothing after.

                Edit: For example on beehaw this post as 37 comments, while on lemmy.world it has 97 (at the time of writing this edit)

        • Lemdee@lemmy.worldEnglish
          8·
          1 year ago

          I’m not sure about that. I think it might be a glitch or something because I never see beehaw comments on lemmy.world and never see lemmy.world comments on my beehaw account. Like, I can’t see the comment I made on this account from my beehaw account.

          Just thought it was odd.

          I was just being dumb, Monzingo is right.

    • Dee@beehaw.orgEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      See Mozingo? Nothin’

      (this comment makes more sense if you can see both lemmy.world and beehaw comments lol)

      • Lemdee@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        1 year ago

        Okay, I had the dumbs. So because lemmy.world isn’t defederated from beehaw, but beehaw is defederated from lemmy.world I can see the beehaw comments on lemmy.world but not the other way around.

        False alarm, I got excited for a second there but had the dumbs. Carry on about your day.

  • ombremad@kbin.social
    85·
    1 year ago

    Thank you so much. We need that more than anything right now — where transphobic content tends to be the default on the web.

    If this is the time to go full aggressive for our rights, count me in!

    (And if you’re here to passive-aggressively complain about how you « don’t care about people’s sexuality » and making everyone notice you’re leaving — let me be very active-aggressive in saying « good fucking riddance » to you.)

    • Unmarketable Plushie@pawb.social
      37·
      1 year ago

      One of the mods made a post about how this comment being really creepy about trans men’s bodies somehow wasn’t transphobic and then deleted it after people started calling them out lol

      • LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        22·
        1 year ago

        Thank you for providing good context on this thread. The original comment was ass, but not important overall. If the mod hadn’t decided to explicitly defend it, this wouldn’t even be a conversation. This entire discourse would have been avoided if it wasn’t for a shitty mod post.

      • BraBraBra@lemmy.world
        0·
        1 year ago

        The guy said he wasn’t into dicks and that it would be weird to like something about his partner that they would want gone and dislike. That’s not transphobic. It honestly bonkers that people find that to be transphobic.

      • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
        31·
        1 year ago

        There was some transphobia that came crawling out like usually happens when a trans topic starts getting active

        That is what prompted this post. It happens every single time trans stuff comes up. There is no space for it here.

          • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
            39·
            1 year ago

            Yes, I’m aware. You can see the list here https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog?page=1&userId=170858

            They were removed, because a meme community on a trans run instance isn’t the place for a discussion on the specifics of why you don’t want to fuck trans people.

            We hear that enough, every day, in every place we look online. We don’t need it here too.

            Was the post transphobic? That depends on who you ask, but either way, what it wasn’t is “unambiguously supportive”

            It’s also worth pointing out that those posts were not the trigger for this thread

            • Zymi@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              25·
              1 year ago

              a meme community on a trans run instance isn’t the place for a discussion on the specifics of why you don’t want to fuck trans people.

              I really wish more people got this

              • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
                3·
                1 year ago

                It’s like Pokémon, you made eye contact with someone on a meme sub and suddenly you’re forced into a debate you don’t want to have.

                👀 Barbie or Oppenheimer? Answer me, Zymi!

            • Lemdee@lemmy.worldEnglish
              7·
              1 year ago

              It’s also worth pointing out that those posts were not the trigger for this thread

              That’s a relief! I was a little worried because I like this instance but was butting heads in the one post. Thank you for running this instance. I threw what money I can at the moment to the blahaj.zone Kofi because I feel bad I might’ve made your job harder as an admin lol

        • LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          13·
          1 year ago

          It seems very “chaser” to me. In other comments, the poster mentioned how he was attracted to “post op trans women and pre op trans men”. Grouping those two demographics together in this way will never be seen as not chaser.

            • LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              7·
              1 year ago

              Someone who fetishizes trans people. You find trans people hot? That’s totally fine, you can have preferences. But grouping post op trans women and pre op trans men sexually is saying that they’re being viewed as women regardless of their identity.

              If you wanna fuck a trans person, it should be because you’re attracted to them. Maybe you like boobs and penis together and that’s fine. Maybe you like a masculine chest and a vagina. You can be attracted to a certain intersection, even if that intersection is a straight one. But fucking them because they’re trans and exotic is chasing. If you like women, fuck trans women. If you like men, fuck trans men. But don’t just randomly flip them around like there’s no difference to you.

    • persolb@lemmy.mlEnglish
      11·
      1 year ago

      Honestly I didn’t realize this was a trans community. I thought ‘196’ was just some random number like the ‘4’ in 4chan. 196 just had good content. The fact it’s inclusive is just a bonus.

      • DrQuint@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        1 year ago

        That’s partially to blame for all 196 communities having this weird “if you know you know” approach to writing their mission statement and rules. I’ve seen numerous people ask wth is 196 because of how vague the communities they saw were.

        But, particularly about the social politics, here’s also the thing I think. Trans rights are human rights. Communities fall under two categories: Welcoming to trans people, versus inherently evil. So I don’t think that a community is pro-trans should ever have to be stated. It should be assume, and whoever has a problem with it should go fuck off from society, Satan has a place for them.

        • priapus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Tbf, this one does mention it on the about page, so it’s more obvious to newcomers than r/196 was.

      • Yulia@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        It’s not a trans community per se, it’s more of a more trans-friendly shitposting community. Like, I think, even now majority of posters aren’t trans. And majority of content is not trans-themed, it’s not traa. It’s a good place if you don’t want to see only trans-themed memes, but also don’t want to see transphobia

  • toadstorm@lemmy.worldEnglish
    48·
    1 year ago

    i am old and cis but trans shitposters are the best shitposters, this is indisputable. you have my support

  • PJB@lemmy.spacestation14.com
    29·
    1 year ago

    What the fuck, transphobia on 196?

    Trans rights 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️

    • detectivesniffles@lemmy.ca
      1·
      1 year ago

      FOR TRANSPHOBES ITS BECOME ECONOMICALLY NONVIABLE TO LIVE IN LOSER CITY BUT SORRY (SMUGLY) M*THERFUCKERS TRANSPHOBES NEED NOT APPLY 🏳️‍⚧️

  • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    25·
    1 year ago

    I don’t subscribe to this community but I found your post in the top of my feed. And want people to know, you have my support. I think it’s awesome that you’re able to build this community.

    I’m not going to be aggressive in any online discussion but I am very sensitive to the situation. My brother was a gay man who had lots of difficulties and ultimately took his own life. I will always wonder if society was different, if he’d still be here.

    So I will never shy away in real life. I promised the memories of my brother to always be that change that is needed. I will be that cis dude who takes the time to try and change people who show me their bigotry.

    I know people in real life who have transitioned. It’s a very difficult process and anyone who feels that they need it, they should have access to it. The look of being comfortable in one’s own skin afterwards is absolutely observable. I can only do what I can do but you will always have an ally in me.