I genuinely believe more people would have kept uaing physical media if they made it more convenient just to pop in a movie and play it.
Everytime I put in a 4k blu Ray, there’s like 40 seconds of useless loading screens, unskippabble warnings, menu animations, and other bullshit. It feels like the old days of massively overcooked multimedia “experiences” in the worst way possible.
You can rent (until your service decides to stop selling that content) and download a DRM-locked copy only playable in one app that’s 1/5 the bitrate. Is that not good enough for you?
What if we include a full screen ad whenever you pause. You’re not watching anyways, what’s the harm?
Oh, also, did you hear about our other content and services? We would like to remind you of all of those every time you start to watch something - we don’t consider them advertisements, just important feature updates, so you can’t remove them.
Aand… you HAVE to be connected to the internet to watch, because we made this really cool AI thing that watches literally everything you do, sends it to our servers, and sometimes happens to recognize which characters are on screen so you can access their IMDB pages through your TV while watching the movie for some reason, like that’s a normal thing people want to interrupt their movie experience to do.
in better formats (mkv) you can start playing before download has completed. you may need to have the last part of the time, but I’m not sure about that
4K discs are so niche that this just isn’t really true, since they simply don’t bother to add that stuff anymore with the money all going to streaming. Almost every 4K disc I have just loads right into a bland generic menu with only a skippable logo for universal or whatever at the beginning. On top of that, they’re all region free. Odd that when the consumer base for physical media is smaller than it used to be, the consumer experience is better.
Now most of these 4K discs also come with a regular (often older) Blu-ray which contains the features from previous releases or whatever, and THAT’S where the bullshit you’re talking about is - lots of trailers (with it being a crapshoot whether you can skip straight to the menu, need to skip one at a time, or have to actually fast forward them), and, worst of all, defunct BD-Live stuff that in some cases you have no way to skip loading at all, even if you completely disable network connectivity in the player. None of this junk is in any of my 4Ks. Sometimes the features are even on the 4K too, if you’re really lucky.
But yeah, modern 4K discs are mostly great and still absolutely way better video and audio quality than any streaming service I’ve used - the worst thing you usually get is maybe one dumb copyright notice. (LG’s 4K players were terrible anyway though making the experience bad for consumers for a different reason, but that’s for another comment).
I have a bunch of uhd discs that are full of meandering loading crap. The HD Blu Ray era was worse, and that’s what I think drove people away. It’s obviously too little too late on the newer stuff.
That and DVDs were like £3 most of the time. I’d always be picking up stuff just for the hell of it. Got shelves full of them.
Blu-rays and especially 4K Blu-rays were pretty much always full price of £20. That’s at least a whole month of any streaming service and sometimes two. Plus I can barely tell any difference between streaming and disc, especially on the picture quality. The audio is more noticeable, but not worth £20 a movie.
The current streaming services will slowly decline as well until they realise they need to switch to a music industry model where nearly everything is on every service. I installed Jellyfin ages ago, and the experience of just having one service to look through is so much better than dipping into half a dozen apps to see if any of them have what you want to watch.
I know what I’m after as an experience, it’s up to them if they want to provide it at a reasonable price.
I genuinely believe more people would have kept uaing physical media if they made it more convenient just to pop in a movie and play it.
Everytime I put in a 4k blu Ray, there’s like 40 seconds of useless loading screens, unskippabble warnings, menu animations, and other bullshit. It feels like the old days of massively overcooked multimedia “experiences” in the worst way possible.
I ripped our physical media, and the experience is way better. I wish I could just buy and download a .mkv or .avi or whatever.
You can rent (until your service decides to stop selling that content) and download a DRM-locked copy only playable in one app that’s 1/5 the bitrate. Is that not good enough for you?
What if we include a full screen ad whenever you pause. You’re not watching anyways, what’s the harm?
Oh, also, did you hear about our other content and services? We would like to remind you of all of those every time you start to watch something - we don’t consider them advertisements, just important feature updates, so you can’t remove them.
Aand… you HAVE to be connected to the internet to watch, because we made this really cool AI thing that watches literally everything you do, sends it to our servers, and sometimes happens to recognize which characters are on screen so you can access their IMDB pages through your TV while watching the movie for some reason, like that’s a normal thing people want to interrupt their movie experience to do.
Mmm, when you put it that way…
Best we can do is enshitification. Hope your standards steadily lower throughout your life.
40 seconds?
More like 10 minutes
For real though
The best bit is that Blu-ray supports “online content” so they can update the forced intros and trailers to fresh ones!
And it’s a great way to make sure you get an up to date ad snuck in there.
I still like physical media, but every corner of everything just has to be jam packed with ad crap and other distractors now
I have never actually seen that happen
I prefer my 10min of unskippable download time and watching it in 4k with a proper bitrate.
in better formats (mkv) you can start playing before download has completed. you may need to have the last part of the time, but I’m not sure about that
4K discs are so niche that this just isn’t really true, since they simply don’t bother to add that stuff anymore with the money all going to streaming. Almost every 4K disc I have just loads right into a bland generic menu with only a skippable logo for universal or whatever at the beginning. On top of that, they’re all region free. Odd that when the consumer base for physical media is smaller than it used to be, the consumer experience is better.
Now most of these 4K discs also come with a regular (often older) Blu-ray which contains the features from previous releases or whatever, and THAT’S where the bullshit you’re talking about is - lots of trailers (with it being a crapshoot whether you can skip straight to the menu, need to skip one at a time, or have to actually fast forward them), and, worst of all, defunct BD-Live stuff that in some cases you have no way to skip loading at all, even if you completely disable network connectivity in the player. None of this junk is in any of my 4Ks. Sometimes the features are even on the 4K too, if you’re really lucky.
But yeah, modern 4K discs are mostly great and still absolutely way better video and audio quality than any streaming service I’ve used - the worst thing you usually get is maybe one dumb copyright notice. (LG’s 4K players were terrible anyway though making the experience bad for consumers for a different reason, but that’s for another comment).
I have a bunch of uhd discs that are full of meandering loading crap. The HD Blu Ray era was worse, and that’s what I think drove people away. It’s obviously too little too late on the newer stuff.
And five minutes of ads.
That and DVDs were like £3 most of the time. I’d always be picking up stuff just for the hell of it. Got shelves full of them.
Blu-rays and especially 4K Blu-rays were pretty much always full price of £20. That’s at least a whole month of any streaming service and sometimes two. Plus I can barely tell any difference between streaming and disc, especially on the picture quality. The audio is more noticeable, but not worth £20 a movie.
The current streaming services will slowly decline as well until they realise they need to switch to a music industry model where nearly everything is on every service. I installed Jellyfin ages ago, and the experience of just having one service to look through is so much better than dipping into half a dozen apps to see if any of them have what you want to watch.
I know what I’m after as an experience, it’s up to them if they want to provide it at a reasonable price.