I suppose that’s possible, but the lack of clarity on that point still makes me uncomfortable. And there’s nothing wrong with bi dudes liking trans women, obviously. I am a bi dude who happens to be dating multiple trans women.
Because the idea that a man attracted to trans women could not be straight is transphobic. Trans women are women and a man attracted to women can be straight regardless of whether they’re trans or cis.
Nah. Even if it’s hetero, it’s probably not straight. Straightness is similar to whiteness; simply a term to say “you’re normal and deserving of respect.” It’s a normal word, not simply a descriptive one.
Dating a nonbinary person as a binary person is definitionally hetero, but hard to call straight. An agender person and a bigender person would totally be het, but totally not be straight. If it’s not a relationship between 2 monogamous, cishet people assigned opposite sexes at birth, it’s weird and unnatural.
Bigots can literally gatekeep straightness from a cishet woman dating a cisbi man. It’s like a tainting of her for being with a queer person, even if neither she nor the relationship is queer. It doesn’t matter if they’re monogamous for life; it’s one drop of queerness poisoning their ability to be normal. They’d need to hide his true orientation.
I think boils down to “similar optics, different gender identity”, but I’m neither of these flavors so I really don’t know. But for this joke, I think either works.
Calling for assistance: we need a ruling here. Halp.
i would say femboys are generally seen as not wanting to be female, just feminine. Same as how crossdressing doesn’t make you trans, it just means you like crossdressing.
a term sometimes used synonymously with femboy is tomgirl, as a mirror to tomboy, and you wouldn’t start calling tomboys trans men would you? They’re people who identify as female but present less femininely.
so the feminine character is a femboy and not trans because of the bi flag in panel 2? also what’s the difference between a femboy and tomgirl?
the more I read this thread the more confused I get 😓
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This sucks. Implies he can only like a trans woman if he’s bi and not if he’s straight.
What makes you think there’s a trans girl involved? Could just be a femboy. Also, there’s nothing wrong with bi dudes liking trans girls.
I suppose that’s possible, but the lack of clarity on that point still makes me uncomfortable. And there’s nothing wrong with bi dudes liking trans women, obviously. I am a bi dude who happens to be dating multiple trans women.
Goddamn, dude. Leave some genitals for the rest of us.
Lmao
wait how tho?
bi flag in the bg of the last panel.
oh jeeze egg on my face for not recognizing it!
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Why does it matter?
Because the idea that a man attracted to trans women could not be straight is transphobic. Trans women are women and a man attracted to women can be straight regardless of whether they’re trans or cis.
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Not sure what that has to do with what I said. I didn’t suggest anyone should be compelled to have sex with anyone…
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Nah. Even if it’s hetero, it’s probably not straight. Straightness is similar to whiteness; simply a term to say “you’re normal and deserving of respect.” It’s a normal word, not simply a descriptive one.
Dating a nonbinary person as a binary person is definitionally hetero, but hard to call straight. An agender person and a bigender person would totally be het, but totally not be straight. If it’s not a relationship between 2 monogamous, cishet people assigned opposite sexes at birth, it’s weird and unnatural.
Bigots can literally gatekeep straightness from a cishet woman dating a cisbi man. It’s like a tainting of her for being with a queer person, even if neither she nor the relationship is queer. It doesn’t matter if they’re monogamous for life; it’s one drop of queerness poisoning their ability to be normal. They’d need to hide his true orientation.
You definitely have a point there, although I would say that any person with interest in cis-hetero relationships only could call themselves straight.
Mods here deleted my comment, idk why tho. Seems like a classic case of: "bisexuality is le heckerino transphobia!!1!!1!
So wait, are they a femboy and not a trans woman then?
I think boils down to “similar optics, different gender identity”, but I’m neither of these flavors so I really don’t know. But for this joke, I think either works.
Calling for assistance: we need a ruling here. Halp.
i would say femboys are generally seen as not wanting to be female, just feminine. Same as how crossdressing doesn’t make you trans, it just means you like crossdressing.
a term sometimes used synonymously with femboy is tomgirl, as a mirror to tomboy, and you wouldn’t start calling tomboys trans men would you? They’re people who identify as female but present less femininely.
so the feminine character is a femboy and not trans because of the bi flag in panel 2? also what’s the difference between a femboy and tomgirl?
the more I read this thread the more confused I get 😓
Thank you for replying. This makes complete and total sense.